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MSNBC
Dec 12, 2012 12:00pm PST
if there is going to be a deal, what obama would be willing to give to the republicans on entitlements and medicare and social security. there is push back saying you better not be raising the eligibility age. he was pointedly asking if that was something he would consider. he refused to rule it out. he would not rule it out in the entry. i'm wondering how nervous do you think right now progressives should be about the idea of the medicare age going up in any deal. >> i guess i don't think progressives should be nervous at all. it's not clear he is going to agree as part of the deal because of the push back and all the analysis that is coming out that shows it doesn't save any money in the near term and shifts money from one pocket of the health care system to another. it might increase national health cost fist people 66 or 67 have to go into the regular system and get subsidized under obama care. the thing that no one talks about is typically when you talk about raising the eligibility age under simpson boelgz that proposed that, it doesn't phase in the higher age for like 30 or 40 years. if that
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 12:00pm PST
recall hearing all the time, you know, mitt romney and the republicans going after obama for that $700 billion in medicare cuts. wellรง you know why he was sayi that? because obama and the affordable care act cut medicare by $700 billion. they did it in a very careful way. they did it in a way to protect beneficiaries and responsible. they faced up. they said medicare does need to be trimmed. we need to do it in a smart way and did this. >> why is it off the table now? >> well, precisely because they did -- took that step. they took that very big step and now everyone -- now the idea's, all right, we took the found cut and starting the experiments now. let's see how they work. there's a very good chance, in fact, we are seeing signs that some of them are starting to save some money. we cut $700 billion. we have these pilot programs going forward. let's watch. we have taken enough out of medicare for now and see how the experiments go. if they work out and if a few of them work out, we'll get bigger shape and in better shape fiscally. >> the line in the sand of the president is not don
MSNBC
Dec 11, 2012 12:00pm PST
that at least 500,000 sign yours uninsured living in states with republican governors or have otherwise said they will not participate in the affordable care act so there's a kind of blithe assumption by liberals that we have obama care and seniors could go in the mix. well, they can't if they live in states where the governor will not add medicaid dollars or not set up an exchange, so it creates more suffering and it's also so class biassed. i think it's the single best example when this is bandied about as we're protected in the little bubble of suffering and michigan discussion got in to this, too. but, you know, yes, life expectancy increased over the last 20 years. but mainly that's for people at the top of the income level. for lower incomes seniors it's barely increased at all so there's all these assumptions of good for people on the open market longer, that's not true. it's a terrible idea. i cannot believe that the president is even considering it. i just can't even take that in to my mind. >> joan, let's talk about what the president is considering and argue or agree for the sake
MSNBC
Dec 6, 2012 12:00pm PST
. obama in his first offer to congress proposed some slight, you know, stimulative measures. republicans immediately scoffed at it and dismissed it. skeptical we'll have much in the way of stimulus if and when they strike an agreement here. can we look outside of the government and congress and see any other possible sources of stimulus for this economy in the near ferm? >> steve, i like the humor around the group, and i think it's a slightly schizophrenic time. i think one can be deeply worried about the compression of growth, the collapse of inflation, and the possible revival of 1930s style policies around the world. that's deeply worrying. on the other hand, i think there is some space to be slightly optimistic that we're opening up opportunities for what i call a pivot to inhe flags both here in the united states and around the world. >> this is just around the corner, and it's going to destroy the economy and inflation has not ticked up. it's been low for the past few years. you say maybe a little inflation wouldn't be bad for the economy right here. kind of a counterintuitive argu
MSNBC
Dec 10, 2012 12:00pm PST
but the conversation within the white house is about the idea of giving in to republicans on raising the eligibility age for medicare, raising that two years in exchange for a partial increase on the top marginal tax rate to 37% instead of 39.6% obama is asking for. that idea, horrifying the left. it does not poll very well. it actually doesn't do much from a budget tear standpoint but i think people say it's powerfully symbolic for the republicans to get that concession sen if this is something that the white house is willing to explore does this not suggest they're very concerned about the leverage of the republicans with the debt ceiling and pressure to give in in a real way here? >> i think there's desire on the part of the president to increase social security. while the public would like to both strengthen the two programs and never change them, that's not really possible. so, i think if the white house was able to make some reforms that they could agree to, that they think will actually help the long-term sustainability of the programs, and will also help get republicans on board to vote for
Search Results 0 to 6 of about 7 (some duplicates have been removed)